sigh was talking to michael moore last night. australia, a country of hunters, after a terrible mass killing in 1986, in a moment, they turn around, gun rocontrol, it goes zero. there are two issues here, one is gun controls and the cuts taking place around mental illness. we don't know particularly in this case, what adam lanza's condition was, but we know if we look at the string of killings takes place from aurora, on back, not to mention what happened this week. this is a very serious issue, that the issue of mental illness, its stigma, and the lack of support and our problems with health care in this country, you put these two together, and it is a perfect storm. gun control and helping to support people who are mentally ill in this country. >> what i find so disturb sergeant reaction is a always around the additional criminalizing, of those, least involved in the attack and the deaths. so we talk specifically about the importance of having more security in schools. so now 5-year-olds -- an armed policeman is what 5-year-old